[Nix-dev] The Church of Suckless NixOS is looking for followers

[Jan Malakhovski]

Mayeu <m at mayeu.me> writes:

> I would love to see that in upstream, independence from systemd will open the door to have some kind of NixBSD and other fun stuff like that. (No longer than 3 days ago there was a discussion for GSOC to have a project to make NixOS + freebsd).

Note that NixOS FreeBSD/NetBSD is just SLNOS with a different kernel,
because we are gonna to be free from glibc and GNU tools.

> And besides, since I am following NixOS I have always heard that one of the long-term goal would be to abstract away from systemd.

Apparently not.

>> * Some of us want to drop GRUB in favor of running on top of minimal
>>  Xen payload on Coreboot firmware and isolate everything like in
>>  QubesOS, but we are not united on that point at this point. (Yes, we
>>  are aware of Heads:ROM, thank you, we are discussing all of this.)
>
> Again, there are regular discussions in multiple space to have some kind of Qubes OS + Nix merge (or related) [1][2][3][4]. Note that Qubes uses SaltStack [5] to have some kind of declarative VM management. Nix would be a really nice improvement over that.
>
> [1] Qubes OS ML: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-devel/QDM2YNdWdXI <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-devel/QDM2YNdWdXI>
> [2] Harden(ed) NixOS issue reference Qubes multiple time: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/7220 <https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/7220>
> [3] Package MirageOS for NixOS: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/23955 <https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/23955>
> [4] Trying to run NixOS in a Qubes VM: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/21402 <https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/21402>
> [5] Qubes OS SaltSack doc: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/salt/ <https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/salt/>
>
> All of that would be awesome for NixOS :)

Yep, but someone needs to do all that work first :)

Cheers,
  Jan