[Nix-dev] The Church of Suckless NixOS is looking for followers

[Adrien Devresse]

> Note that NixOS FreeBSD/NetBSD is just SLNOS with a different kernel,
> because we are gonna to be free from glibc and GNU tools.

I am sorry in advance for this comment.

But I can only get amused of seeing some GNU, Linux and systemD-haters 
spitting on C++ and software complexity on their main website 
(http://suckless.org/sucks/) and on the other side using Nix, the most 
complex package manager up to date, coded in C++, for their main 
packaging system.


Just for the troll : Do you also plan to redo also Nix entirely in C, 
like everything else, just for fun ?


Cheers,

Adev





Le 18/03/17 à 17:46, Jan Malakhovski a écrit :
> Mayeu <m at mayeu.me> writes:
>
>> I would love to see that in upstream, independence from systemd will open the door to have some kind of NixBSD and other fun stuff like that. (No longer than 3 days ago there was a discussion for GSOC to have a project to make NixOS + freebsd).
> Note that NixOS FreeBSD/NetBSD is just SLNOS with a different kernel,
> because we are gonna to be free from glibc and GNU tools.
>
>> And besides, since I am following NixOS I have always heard that one of the long-term goal would be to abstract away from systemd.
> Apparently not.
>
>>> * Some of us want to drop GRUB in favor of running on top of minimal
>>>   Xen payload on Coreboot firmware and isolate everything like in
>>>   QubesOS, but we are not united on that point at this point. (Yes, we
>>>   are aware of Heads:ROM, thank you, we are discussing all of this.)
>> Again, there are regular discussions in multiple space to have some kind of Qubes OS + Nix merge (or related) [1][2][3][4]. Note that Qubes uses SaltStack [5] to have some kind of declarative VM management. Nix would be a really nice improvement over that.
>>
>> [1] Qubes OS ML: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-devel/QDM2YNdWdXI <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/qubes-devel/QDM2YNdWdXI>
>> [2] Harden(ed) NixOS issue reference Qubes multiple time: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/7220 <https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/7220>
>> [3] Package MirageOS for NixOS: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/23955 <https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/23955>
>> [4] Trying to run NixOS in a Qubes VM: https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/21402 <https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/21402>
>> [5] Qubes OS SaltSack doc: https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/salt/ <https://www.qubes-os.org/doc/salt/>
>>
>> All of that would be awesome for NixOS :)
> Yep, but someone needs to do all that work first :)
>
> Cheers,
>    Jan
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