[Nix-dev] Is systemd a benefit or a liability?

Alexander Zubkov green at msu.ru
Sun Oct 19 13:13:43 CEST 2014


And what you need from the integration of systemd with udev? What 
use-cases do you have for this?

On 10/19/2014 02:57 PM, Luca Bruno wrote:
> That would be over-engineering instead. Your event system would have to
> talk with the init system with some IPC. So no, it shouldn't be
> externalized.
>
> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 12:54 PM, Alexander Zubkov <green at msu.ru> wrote:
>
>> Sorry, copy-pasted the wrong link:
>> http://uselessd.darknedgy.net/
>>
>> On 10/19/2014 02:42 PM, Luca Bruno wrote:
>>
>>> My reason for using systemd compared to nosh, uselessd, sysvinit, openrc
>>> or
>>> whatelse is that it's integrated with the event system (udev). That is the
>>> real advantage of systemd and you should think more about this kind of
>>> advantage.
>>>
>>> My reason to hate systemd is that it has other components that have been
>>> moved into system without a strong rationale. All of those components
>>> could
>>> have been externalized in some way instead of being rewritten.
>>>
>>> So if uselessd wouldn't drop all the .timer, .device etc. and the udev
>>> integration, it would be a real alternative.
>>>
>>
>> But .timer .device etc is "those components could have been externalized
>> in some way instead of being rewritten"?
>> As I understand their page, it all was dropped in uselessd.
>>
>>
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