[Nix-dev] Use Haskell for Shell Scripting

[Daniel Peebles]

You linked to something from 2011. Since 7.8 (or perhaps earlier?),
it's dynamically linked by default.

On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 7:52 PM, Raahul Kumar <raahul.kumar at gmail.com> wrote:
> At this current point in time, GHC is packaged in a poor manner, with GHC
> being unbelievably huge. Dynamic linking is the answer, which isn't done by
> default.
>
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6115459/small-haskell-program-compiled-with-ghc-into-huge-binary
>
> Aloha,
> RK.
>
> On Sat, Jan 31, 2015 at 3:35 AM, Joe Hillenbrand <joehillen at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 8:36 AM, Domen Kožar <domen at dev.si> wrote:
>>>
>>> If you want to impose on people to learn Haskell and Nix to contribute,
>>> you're going to end up in a lonely island. Remember, Nix tries to be
>>> approachable to everyone and that's why it's minimal and simple.
>>
>>
>> I'll never buy the circular argument that "Haskell's not popular because
>> Haskell's not popular." I think people would be encouraged to learn Haskell
>> if Nix was using it to great success. From what I've seen, a huge chunk of
>> the existing Nix community are Haskellers because they understand the
>> benefits of purity. I think if there is a clear benefit to a superior tool,
>> it should be used, though I'm not entirely convinced there are a huge
>> benefit to using Turtle.
>>
>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 5:07 PM, Oliver Charles <ollie at ocharles.org.uk>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Not sure if you're serious...
>>
>>
>> I'm not sure if I am either. I'm just curious what people think about the
>> possibility.
>>
>>> I'd imagine that the startup overhead is now higher than bash, and the
>>> size of closures goes up a lot (you have to pull in the many hundreds of MB
>>> that GHC needs).
>>
>>
>> Given those concerns another option could be shell-monad[1][2], which
>> outputs shell script, so you get some of the safety benefits of Haskell with
>> none of the overhead. Maybe it would be a good middle ground.
>>
>> [1] http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/shell_monad_day_3/
>> [2] http://hackage.haskell.org/package/shell-monad
>>
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