[Nix-dev] Will there be a systemd replacement at any time inthefuture?

[Michael Raskin]

>It's funny, for me it's the opposite - logging with systemd is sooo much better
>than with Upstart. (IIRC, the logging of stderr of Upstart jobs was a
>NixOS-specific hack, and other than that there was no logging support.)

Somehow, it work reliably…

>However, there is a long-standing issue with stdout/stderr logging: if the
>process dies before systemd has had a change to process its log message, then
>systemd may not be able to figure out the unit corresponding to the message, so
>it may be lost (or not attributed to the unit). See
>
>  http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2012-June/005590.html

Apparently, the fix got merged? Why doesn't it work?

Obviously, stderr of a failing service is the most interesting piece of
logs on a personal notebook.

>Also note that the journal has rate-limiting that may cause messages to be dropped.

I remember that story with flooding the kernel…