[Nix-dev] Will there be a systemd replacement at any time inthe future?

Michael Raskin 7c6f434c at mail.ru
Mon Sep 1 11:32:30 CEST 2014


>> This post (to this ML) says pretty much what I think about systemd and
>> why I hate it:
>>
>>      http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.distributions.nixos/13967
>
>I take these things more as a joke. It is even more extreme than to say 
>that KDE or GNOME is eating all desktop apps. To me systemd seems more 
>like a collection of well-defined subprojects.

SystemD explicitly refuses to have stable APIs between components.

If you have to update all at once, these are not subprojects.

>People often complain about not having an alternative, but I've never 
>seen anyone seriously put an effort into adding an alternative into 
>NixOS. It should be easier than in most distros, as we have 
>*declarative* configuration of jobs and other things.

We do not have declarative configuration of jobs in any useful way.

Our declarations are very much tied to systemd. Dependencies are 
expressed in systemd terms — the rewriting was very visible during
the (not universally welcomed) migration from upstart.





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