[Nix-dev] Improving the Developer Experience in the Nix Community

[Florian Friesdorf]

forgot an important point:

I think it is more fruitful to think of the system between us
maintainers being anarchy, not democracy and therefore we should be
aware of and work with consensus.

For a nice description and one implementation of consensus, see:

https://www.noisebridge.net/wiki/Consensus

Noisebridge, is a San Francisco based hackerspace working with the one
rule of "Being excellent to each other".


If I duplicate things at the moment, I'm sorry. I do my best to keep up
but cannot cope with the amount of mail right now. I will catch up for
sure.

On Fri, 29 Jun 2012 15:10:27 +0200, Florian Friesdorf <flo at chaoflow.net> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 27 Jun 2012 09:30:28 -0400, Shea Levy <shea at shealevy.com> wrote:
> > (..) Please, if you have a vision for what the nix projects could be
> > but aren't, share it. Otherwise it's highly unlikely that the nix you
> > want to be will come into existence.
> 
> I'd like it to be (not claiming that it isn't already):
> 
> - easy to package new stuff / update packages
>   * for maintainers (people having commit access to nixpkgs and nixos)
>     directly possible
>   * for new contributors via github pull request or git
>     format-patch/send-email
> 
> - easy to maintain patch sets (published or local)
>   * currently easy against most recent master
>   * to minimize deviation from channel to have maximum binary support
>     via hydra, tags are needed for channel releases (on Eelco's todo
>     list)
> 
> - easy to find:
>   * how to install (cd/usb/other_linux)
>   * where to file bugs (nixos vs nixpkgs)
>     + can we move tickets between nixos and nixpkgs trackers?
>   * how to contribute
> 
> - in-time security updates and instructions, needs (rough thoughts
>   only):
>   * enough maintainers to handle updates and inform about eventual data
>     updates (like needed for the most recent pycrypto weakness right
>     now)
>   * maybe support through automatic scanning of security announcement
>     lists and notification of maintainers if there seems need for action
>   * tags for channel releases (see above) to base security updates on
>     plus merging into master
>   * higher priority for security update builds on hydra
> 
> - support for more platforms, finally I'd like all my devices (phone,
>   laptop, server, tablets, ...) to run on nixos
> 
> - at least a yearly Nix/NixOS meetup/sprint/conference. I think frequent
>   in person meetings would help to avoid miscommunications and drive
>   further development
> 
> - I think it would be great to see a company providing support/services
>   for a nixpkgs/nixos (derived) distribution
> 
> - increase presence of nixos. I think it is the best we have seen with
>   respect to system management / deployment and it has big potential for
>   creating well-defined reproducable development environments, but most
>   people don't know about it.
> 
> - (impure) development environments for nasty pieces of software. To
>   work right away on software that relies on a lot of things being
>   present in /usr it would be great to have isolated environments where
>   one profile is linked to /usr. While working on the software you can
>   then purified it step by step until this is not necessary anymore.
>   lxc[1] might help with that. The point is to enable you to continue to
>   be productive on a piece of software without first spending a week
>   explaining different build systems the concept of purity.
> 
> regards
> florian
> 
> [1] http://lxc.teegra.net/
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