[Nix-dev] Re: [PATCH 1/2] t/scons

[Peter Simons]

7c6f434c at mail.ru,

 > And you haven't given an example where you need scons to ignore PATH,
 > unfortunately.

I have explained the rationale behind my preference for the unmodified
SCons behavior in quite some detail. I have made an effort to take any
and all postings in this thread seriously, to respond to them, and to
address the issues that are being raised to the best of my abilities
given the usual time constraints that apply to contributors to a free
software project. I have tried really hard to figure out what I can do
to serve everyone's best interest.

Now, when I look at the list of people who have contributed to SCons in
the past, I see this:

 | /usr/local/src/nixpkgs-current$ git log --pretty=short pkgs/development/tools/build-managers/scons | git shortlog
 | eelco (6):
 |       * Added the build manager SCons.
 |       * Copy a bunch of files to nix.cs.uu.nl.
 |       * Reverted r6713, r6711, r4623, r3660, r2237.  There rewrote fetchurl
 |       * Rewrite all the SourceForge URLs to mirror://sourceforge/.
 |       * Merged the stdenv branch
 |       * Fix an infinite recursion in scons.
 |
 | raskin (1):
 |       Python must be propagatedBuildInputs now that they are using env
 |
 | roconnor (1):
 |       Patching scons to give an absolute path to python rather than using ".../bin/env python"
 |
 | simons (11):
 |       scons: updated to version 0.95.5 and added selectVersion dispatcher
 |       scons: install library files in python's site-package directory
 |       Cosmetic, no functional change intended.
 |       Updated scons and twisted; added buildbot.
 |       Updated scons to version 1.2.0.
 |       scons: don't overwrite a pre-existing PYTHONPATH in the wrapper
 |       pkgs/development/tools/build-managers/scons: bumped to version 1.3.0
 |       Moved 'maintainers' attribute into the meta section of the expression.
 |       pkgs/development/tools/build-managers/scons: updated to version 2.0.1
 |       pkgs/development/tools/build-managers/scons: move --mandir and --infodir to standard locations
 |       pkgs/development/tools/build-managers/scons: cosmetic build improvements

Eelco and I have both stated that we would prefer Marc's patch not be
applied to the standard SCons expression. We have both explained our
reasons for that opinion, and we've also tried to offer alternative
solutions that address your concerns in another way. Yet, after having
written over a dozen postings or so, here you are outright demanding
that I deliver even further explanations before you are satisfied! WTF?

All I here from you, from Kevin, and from Marc are wild unsubstantiated
claims about how the world is going to come to an end unless we modify
SCons, even though the package has worked just fine without those
modifications for the last 5 years! Frankly, you are the ones who demand
an extremely intrusive change to SCons, so the burden of proof is on
*you*.

Unfortunately, you choose not to reveal your real name, so I can't be
sure, but as far as I can tell, your posting from Dec 22 was the first
time ever you said anything on this mailing list. The first posting from
Kevin is dated Jan 2nd. Apparently, both of you are somewhat new to this
project. Still, here you are lecturing us about how we have no idea how
stuff is supposed to work in NixOS.

This really sucks.

Peter